Effin New Guy Question...T&E Mount...

[SteyrAUG]

Ok, I have a MG42 (MG3) mount with a 1919 adapter.

It has a T&E device but I have no clue what kind it is. I'm assuming it is original to the MG42 tripod.

Now I can back up the thing which I will call a "wheel" to almost get the gun level. But no amount of effort on my part can get it to go further to the rear.

Please note the direction of the crappy arrow I drew.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5016/00000000200.jpg

Now I tried putting a vice grip on the rearmost portion of the threads and attempted to turn the wheel nut with a wrench but all I have managed to do is dink up the last 1/3 inch of the threads.

How the hell do I get the wheel thing to go any further to the rear?

Thanks.

[GUNNER 50]

It is not an original.....The bolt has probably bottomed out....Unscrew the bolt all the way out till you separate ....Then cut a couple inches off the bolt and reassemble it...You should get the results you want.

[Kali Komrade]

If all else fails I think 1919_4_ME makes one... thats in no way stock... It looks like something I'd do... Bubba-fi it...:big: If it'll separate like he said take a bit off at time till you get the elevation you want... A lot of times people wanted the longer threaded section so you could shoot into a gully or ravine... But then us level shooters gotta mod it...:bucktooth:

[SteyrAUG]

It is not an original.....The bolt has probably bottomed out....Unscrew the bolt all the way out till you separate ....Then cut a couple inches off the bolt and reassemble it...You should get the results you want.

Um, that won't do a thing for me.

The wheel thing (nut?) will still stop it at that point. If if the bolt were only 1" long in front of it. If I can't back the wheel up any more to the rear, the bolt won't go anymore further forward.

[SteyrAUG]

Ok, looking at this thing logically it seems the wheel thing is permanently mounted on the threads and cannot be moved to the rear. This makes sense because if the wheel did move up and down the threads no adjustment would be possible by turning the wheel.

So I have two choices.

I can modify it forward of the wheel. This would involve shortening the threaded bolt and the sleeve it threads into. And there is great potential to seriously screw things up if I try that solution.

Or I can shorten the threaded area behind the wheel. It looks like I'd only have to remove the mount thing and take an inch or so off and then replace the mount thing.

Option two seems like it has less room for me to screw things up. But I need to understand how to remove the mount thing. It looks as if it is held in place by a driven pin. But I don't have a solution for removing it that won't destroy it.

Here is a picture of what I'm talking about.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5310/00000000204.jpg

Anyone have any ideas about how to pop out that pin intact? It doesn't go all the way through so driving it out from the other side isn't an option.

ETA: I got it. Turns out the pin was actually an allen screw.

[GUNNER 50]

All of my thoughts are based on 1919 4 ME's desigh...It hard to help when a jerry rigged design is not sitting in front of you...What you got seems simple enough to be figure out by most people...All else fails...Buy one of 1919 4 ME's...It is top notch at a vary fair price...HTH

[SteyrAUG]

All of my thoughts are based on 1919 4 ME's desigh...It hard to help when a jerry rigged design is not sitting in front of you...What you got seems simple enough to be figure out by most people...All else fails...Buy one of 1919 4 ME's...It is top notch at a vary fair price...HTH

Don't think I don't appreciate the effort.

Sometimes with enough people making suggestions, even wrong ones, I can actually figure out what the hell I'm doing.

:big:

[Kali Komrade]

Well... I hope you get it... That was built a little strangely... I think gunner50 me were on the same track thinking to cut down the screw a bit but as you pointed out if you did it would have worked the wheel was already against the sleeve...:doh:
Yeah one side of that screws gotta be cut down and it looks like your on the right track now...

[anm2_man]

SteyrAUG

Welcome aboard. I think I can help you with this. When I bought my MG42 AA tripod, it had a T&E just like that. What you need to do is screw it out a couple of rev's. Get a pipe/monkey wrench so that you can hang on to the wheel and losen the nut below it. This hold the wheel to the screw so that you can go up or down.

Once you got it loose, crank the wheel out towards the area where you bunged up the threads. Follow it with the nut and when you get somewheres close, lock the wheel with the nut.

The problem that you will now have is that the wheel may hit the bottom of the gun - but it depends.

And again, welcome aboard.

[DINK]

You photo doesn't show how the lower part of the T&E is fastened to the leg of the tripod. Would it be possible to move it without major surgery? That would give you the adjustment you need without actual alterations.

[SteyrAUG]

SteyrAUG

Welcome aboard. I think I can help you with this. When I bought my MG42 AA tripod, it had a T&E just like that. What you need to do is screw it out a couple of rev's. Get a pipe/monkey wrench so that you can hang on to the wheel and losen the nut below it. This hold the wheel to the screw so that you can go up or down.

Once you got it loose, crank the wheel out towards the area where you bunged up the threads. Follow it with the nut and when you get somewheres close, lock the wheel with the nut.

The problem that you will now have is that the wheel may hit the bottom of the gun - but it depends.

And again, welcome aboard.

That would seem to make sense. But I already shaved an inch off the rear. So problem solved.

Thanks anyway.