New Prototype South Korean Tank...

[1919_4_ME]

Pretty cool when it drives under water and check out the posture system.And YES they can make tanks sit now... :coffee:
http://www.militaryspot.com/videos/video349.htm

[VonRundstedt]

The US had a prototype MBT in the 1970's with a fully articulated suspension like that, it never got adopted as it was "too expensive"..of course now 1 Abrams would buy 10 of em, but oh well. Personally I think our out of control military-industrial complexes have taken us down the road which defeated the Germans in WW2. More and more exotic complex hard to manufacture highly electronic big machines that cost too much time and money to make. The Soviets ran them out of the Motherland with a dumb armored box on wide tracks with a gun mounted on it based on dirt stupid mechanical technology called the T34. We're making all the same mistakes. If jet engines in tanks are so damn spiffy, why are we the only ones doing it, for over 20 years now?
Yeah, give me 10 minutes with that ROK shitbox..I'll have it run off it's tracks and billowing smoke from every hole. And I wanna see it go up against a top-line T80 with all the Soviet bells and whistles.

[Beltfedshooters]

Von,
Yep thats why our military is cutting back on the overly expensive Abrams main battle tank.As you have probably seen there outfitting the 120mm main gun on a Stryker vehicles now.Most of our battles are now CQB type fighting and even modifying some of the Abrams tanks with shorter cannon barrels for close in street fighting.All of our battles from hear on out will most likely be close in fighting.The enemy knows thats the only way it will have chance.
And you dont need a loud turbine tank driving down a narrow street looking for Hadji's.What you need is a super stealthly electric type vehicle that has a powerful close in weapons system with a overly expensive ceramic type skin that can take a direct hit from the new RPG rounds that are going right through the Abrams tanks...

Drink on! :headbang:

[VonRundstedt]

Yeah, it seems the former Soviet states have perfected the "copperhead" principle of explosively formed penetrators, and a peculiar supply of factory fresh out of the crate RPG's is flowing into the conflict equipped with the same. Spaced laminate armor or active explosive disruptors (as covers the Marine corps M60 tanks and most of the Israeli M60s) are really the only marginally effective way to survive these warheads. Unfortunately, Abrams was a cold war design meant for tank-tank warfare, which means it was armored against Soviet HEAT shaped charge rounds and frontal hits from SABOT rounds. When it was designed, we had the market cornered on "copperhead" rounds so no thought was given to it. The lesson of all this is rapid adaptability. We always end up with the LAST wars' equipment. The stuff we build is so damn complex and takes so long in R&D, by the time the right weapon gets to the field the treaty is signed.
Of course back in the day, we had a variety of vehicles all suited to different tasks..light tanks, medium tanks, armored cars, halftracks, scout cars..adaptability. We've lost that. Again, we've become the Nazis...we've placed all our strategy behind the great and hi tech "tiger tank" of its' day, and inevitably ended up in terrain where it is useless, just like the last guys.