Magazine Question

[Phalanx]

I know some of you guys build your own stuff so i thought i would start here.
Remember when i bought my VZ 58 i said some problems with the Magazines they were calling compliant Mags with the plastic follower in them were bad.
The guy who built the rifle uses his own mags ,he knows they work so if he has a FTF he knows it isn't the Mag.
When i got the gun it had the plastic follower mag so he never caught that.
Before i got the gun i lucked out and bought 6 mags in pouch for $60.00.
These had the metal follower , all of these worked great . the one with the plastic follower would fire 3 rounds ,then shove the left round feeding from the stack into where the chamber and receiver meet in that little corner missing the chamber entirely. The right would feed fine ,and i looked at the lips and they looked normal.
Mags are hard to come by right now and i don't want to trash this mag .
Some 58 kits the feed ramp has a little V in the middle ,but most i have seen or the rifles have a smooth ramp all the way across. If you have the V they will not feed HP and some other ammo .It jams the tip of the round into the bottom of the ramp so OOW and others just smooth that over . Why would this mag cause the round to be slung side ways so hard it misses the chamber ?

[Phalanx]

Well hello Phal ,oh hello Mike ,did you ever find out why that Mag was screwed up ?
Well Mike i took it apart ,and one of the metal follower Mags also.
The Polymer follower to narrow for the Mag spring .They used the same spring out of a metal Mag ,and put it in this one with the compliant follower in it.
The spring not being able to seat properly into the follower was cocked over badly causing the follower to not track right.
WOW man thats messed up !! what did you do?
I bent the top of the spring so it would seat correctly , I haven tried it yet but that was defiantly messed up.
Why in the world does a Mag follower have to be something called compliant.
It must be some of the parts that have to be made here in order to import.

[Kali Komrade]

Yep its gotta be 922r compliant... :green:

Mike are you aware your talking to yourself...:peep:
I'm sorry I can't answer the VZ58 questions but I can't get one here yet....

[Phalanx]

I asked Mike and he said we were not taking to ourselves.
How could that be possible we do not even have the same names !
Boy you guys are Nuts.

[Dan Wilson]

Have you looked at AR-15 follower fitting in there? Not sure if it will work but the latest generation followers with the little skirts running down seem to work pretty good.

Centerfire still has the four mags in the leather pouch with cleaning kit for 60 bucks (they ARE the real mags, not the compliant crap).

Dan

[Phalanx]

Thanks Dan , the mags i bought off GB were that funky blue gray finish.
It isn't bad if it is the right color ,but some of those rifles varied greatly in how deep it was .Some were almost an H&K color and looked fine ,but others were just down right powder blue.The Mags i got i glass beaded them and used Matt Black Dura Coat. The rifle is done in that also ,and that stuff will scratch off ,i have the stuff to Park black ,but i need a tank big enough for a barreled receiver.
Park is the only way to go. Have you got yours done yet ? you cant help but like them they are small ,light ,and the metal work is way above an AK.
But that whole thing with them got so screwed up when they first came in ,and still is i hear. Them saying they are new guns hurt them bad ,guys would open the box and say ,Crap.

[Dan Wilson]

The original finish seems to be some kind of high temp epoxy paint, I rather like it.
But they will get refinished (parked) when I put them together since the receivers will be in the white.

I don't know if I will get the chance to pick up one of the receivers this next month since I have to pay someone 800 buck:coffee:

But yeah, I really love the quality of the original parts - head and balls above any AK I have ever seen.

Dan